Friday, 31 December 2010

The story after: Chapter 2

Chapter 2: Friends

Neocro found herself hunched under a tree, surrounded by hills. The sun shined bright. She slowly got up and climbed to the top if the highest hill. She gasped and looked around her. She saw Flarine in the distance. She put herself down and started to think about what she was going to do now. She didn't dare to go back to that guild house, although she really liked to see Rick again so he could help her. He helped her so much the day before, maybe he didn't want to help her anymore. Neocro started to walk to the town. Everywhere in the hills were Aibatts hidden. They flew around making funny sounds. Neocro smiled a little. When she finally reached town she felt hungry. Neocro took the bag with money she got from Rick and walked to the food seller. It was a little girl with cute, pink clothes. She handed her over some money and got some bread in return. Then she counted how much she had left. "Should be enough..." murmured Neocro. She walked to the main square, to the weapon crafters. Neocro looked around in the store and chose the best yoyo she could buy with the money she had left.

Neocro walked through Flaris looking for monsters she could kill. She sighted, she didn't know what monster wouldn't be too strong for her. Neocro walked on a hill and looked around. Many angry looking wolves stared to her. Neocro grabbed her wooden yoyos and looked around again. No one else was around. She turned her yoyos around and swung them to a wolf. The wolf died immediately. Neocro shocked. She looked the to the yoyos she was holding. Normal wooden yoyos. Where did she get so much strength from? Neocro ran to another wolf and swung her yoyos again. The wolf died after the yoyos hit him just once. "I guess this means I need to find stronger monsters." murmured Neocro. She walked away and tried to find the bridge that crossed the big, deep river of Flaris. A penguin was standing near the bridge. He had a hat on his head with a bell. The bell rang all the time. "New to Madrigal? Visit your friendly neighborhood Buff Pang!" Neocro walked curiously to the penguin. "Hi there." said Neocro. The bell stopped ringing. "Hello there! I'm granting buffs to adventures who haven't completed their second job change yet. Come see me anytime if you ever find yourself in need of a boost to your stats." Neocro hesitated. "Can you give me... buffs too?" "No!" said the penguin. "Why not?" asked Neocro. "Enjoy your stay in Madrigal!" said the penguin and the bell started to ring again. Neocro sighted and ran over the bridge. Walking flowers with sharp teeth awaited her. Neocro grabbed her yoyos, turned them around and swung them to the flowers. One hit, two hits, dead. "This won't do either." She  continued walking north. She killed a cat she passed and arrived with big, gray monsters. Their arms were weapons. Neocro hesitated but swinger her yoyo's again. It took Neocro 3 hits to kill one. Neocro threw her yoyos angrily on the ground. She didn't get it, she was way too strong for this things. She had to go to place where stronger monsters were, but she didn't know where or how she could get there. Neocro put herself on the ground and stared around. She closed her eyes.

"You're welcome!" the Ringmaster smiled. The vagrant ran away happy with his just obtained buffs and started to attack the big, gray monsters. "Neocro." said the Ringmaster. "Where are you now?" Neocro appeared out of nowhere. "Never far from you Sam! I'm always by your side!" They laughed.

"Hey. You." Neocro shocked and opened her eyes. A small girl with blond hair, wearing a brown vagrant dress and holding a small wooden sword was bending over her. "Oh... Hello." said Neocro. The girl smiled. "You must be bored if you can just fall asleep here surrounded by monsters." "I guess." said Neocro. "Let's make a deal!" Neocro looked surprised. "If you stay with me today, I'll give you some money!" Neocro hesitated. "How do you mean, stay with you?" "I can use some company when I try to reach level 15. All you have to do is follow me around and talk with me." "That is just weird." said Neocro. "I'm Jess!" said the girl. She grabbed the hand of Neocro and pulled her with her. "Let's go!"

Neocro followed Jess from Aibatts to Bangs, the gray big monsters. Jess talked all the time. Neocro listened and learned more and more about Madrigal again. The day passed by and Neocro had to admit that this day was rather fun. She didn't have a chance to figure out what monsters she had to kill to get stronger, but she didn't mind. There were plenty of days to figure that out. Neocro sad at Bangs and stared to the sky, she thought about the dream she had earlier today. Was it a dream, or was it something real? "I'm done." said Jess. Neocro looked up. Jess worked hard today. Neocro smiled. "What are you going to do now?" Jess walked to Neocro. "I decided to become a magician. So we'll have to go to Saint Morning." "Saint Morning..." Another name that seemed familiar. "How do we get there?" Jess grabbed an item out of her bag and handed it over to Neocro. "By using a Blink wing. I'll see you there!" They both disappeared.

Neocro looked surprised around. "What a beautiful city." said Neocro. "And you didn't see everything yet!" said Jess. "But that's for later, let's go to the magician trainer." Neocro followed Jess through the streets of Saint Morning. They crosses a small bridge and arrived on a square. It was surrounded by houses, there was a big statue in the middle and there was a path to the top of a high hill. Jess ran to a few people that were standing at one of the houses. Neocro walked slowly to the statue. Her heart beat really fast. It was a statue that displayed 11 people. There were 9 people  sitting, two standing. She stared to each of the faces from the people. A Ranger, 3 Knights, 2 Ringmasters, a Billposter, Blade, Psykeeper, Elementor and a Yoyo Jester. Neocro stared and stared. Who are, or were they? Jess walked to Neocro. "You'd better congratulate me." Neocro didn't reply. "Whoa, what's wrong with you?" "Who are these people?" Jess sighted. "I don't really know, this statue has been here since forever. I heard it has something to do with true heroes." Jess laughed. "True heroes... I wonder if they really existed." "True heroes..." murmured Neocro. Jess pushed Neocro. "Stop staring, just congratulate me!" Neocro blushed and looked to Jess. "I'm so sorry. Congratulations Jess." Jess smiled. "Here is your reward." She handed over a bag. "You don't have to do this!" said Neocro. "I don't care, keep it. Save it for later or something. I think everyone can use some money." "Thanks..." said Neocro. Jess yawned. "I'm getting out of here, getting some rest. Thanks for today!" she disappeared between the houses. Neocro walked to a bench at the side of the square and continued staring to the statue.

A boy crosses the square. He saw the girl sitting on the bench staring to the statue. "Hi you!" said the boy. Neocro looked up. Was that Rick? "Haa, I knew it! You're that girl from yesterday evening." It wasn't Rick, it was someone else. "From yesterday evening? Did we meet?" The boy laughed. He was wearing a sailor suit with cat ears. "You came to our guild house with Rick and left spectacular." Neocro felt ashamed. "No one is angry, you can always come back." "I don't know..." said Neocro. The boy stared to the statue. "Why are you sitting here alone anyway?" Neocro lifted her shoulders. "The statue seems familiar. The people look familiar. I want to know who they are. A friend..." was Jess a friend of her now? "A friend told me they were true heroes." Sean nodded. "That's what I heard too, but it's something from a long time ago! Such heroes don't exist anymore." Neocro stared to the ground. She felt sad, for some reason. The boy looked worried to the girl. "Hi, uhm. I don't know if you want but... I'm going up there to order some tickets for Traseia. If you want you can come with me." Neocro smiled and got up from the bench. "I'll go with you. Can I know your name?" "I'm sorry for not introducing myself. I'm Sean! I'm a friend of Rick, also a member of the same guild. You are... Neocro? Right?" Neocro nodded. Sean smiled. "Let's go!" They walked together to the path that lead to the top of the big hill. It was a rather long path. When they came to the top Neocro saw cranes and loads of ships. "What is this?" asked Neocro. "This is the station." said Sean. "The ships here leave to Azria and Traseia." Neocro her heart made a jump. Azria? Sean walked to a woman at a small office. Sean ordered some tickets to Traseia. Neocro looked to a ship that was filled with people. A strong looking man was standing at the entrance of the ship and looked around. "Ship to Azria is about to leave! One minute to go!" Neocro looked shocked. Azria, Azria, Azria. It was a name she remembered, she wanted go to there. Suddenly she started to run and jumped on the ship. Sean looked shocked and ran after her. "What are you doing!" screamed Sean. He jumped after Neocro on the ship. Neocro looked around on the ship. People were staring to her. The strong man walked to Neocro and Sean. "Do you guys have tickets?" "Tickets?" asked Neocro. The strong man smiled. "No tickets, no way you'll get to Azria. He took Sean in one hand, Neocro in another hand and threw them out the ship. "Oh shit!" said Sean. "Use your board Neocro!" Neocro panicked. "Board? What board?" Sean didn't know what to say. "Your freaking flying board!" "I..-I don't have that!" screamed Neocro. The ground under them came closer. Sean swore. Two wings popped out of his back. He grabbed Neocro. "Close your eyes!" Neocro closed her eyes. They would crash on the ground, they'd die... Neocro opened her eyes when she felt ground at her feet. No crash. She just landed slowly. Sean sighted relieved. The wings disappeared.

Son, Robin and Rob Master!

I'm sorry that I couldn't be with their Master parties, but thanks to Maria I'm able to show you screenshots. She also wrote a bit about it. A big congratulations from me to you guys, and thanks Maria for your work.



Maria

27.12.2010
New Masters!
When Son (MisTy) And Valiss (Ara) got 120 with 99.99%, everyone went to Deathwalderness to hunt the quest items It all went really fast, even though we bought some . Then we went Volcane. Valiss went in and tanked the Meteonkyers at the entrance. When we got up to Cyclops we sneaked and killed them all. Then we got up to the pretty girl so MisTy and Valiss could go Master! When we were done, two new masters were born : MisTy and Valiss, good luck and gratz to you both! 

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Tuesday, 28 December 2010

iHurt Master

Joost finaly decided that he really wanted to get Master. During the exp event he trained a lot to reach level 120 with 99.99%. Yesterday, after gathering questies in Deathwalderness, we ran to Volcano to celebrate Joost.


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When we reached the top of Volcano I noticed I had quest. A weird quest.


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Congratulations Joost!

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Group screenshot. <3


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Thursday, 23 December 2010

Christmas sandwich

This evening I prepared  something we would eat before the original dinner at Christmas evening. You can call it a huge sandwich with a lot kinds of fish, vegetables and eggs. I can tell you, it's delicious. We won't eat it like this though. We'll slice small pieces off it, that we have a little bit from everything. I can't wait!




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This is an embroidery that I made for Christmas. It has no use or something, but I think it looks rather pretty.


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Ahh! Another picture of Tipi! She's hiding in her new tent she got for Christmas though.


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My other two cats. I don't know what they're up to but, this are their favorite new places to sleep now. They can sleep on sofas, chairs, cupboards, ... No, my cats sleep in boxes.

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Christmas on Flyff, and more

Christmas is back on Flyff. The statues in Flaris changed into big Christmas trees, surrounded by presents. And of course, The snowman boy who lost his daddy is back too.

In my house(s) there's also a Christmas tree, one fully decorated by me! There are presents waiting to get opened and my dad is having fun with his weird Christmas gadgets. Tomorrow evening we'll enjoy a Christmas dinner. I really hope that everyone enjoys Christmas as much as I do. Christmas becomes more and more a family holiday here, a time to get together with family and have dinner together. Although my family broke apart, I start to realize every year more and more how thankful I am that I can enjoy Christmas with the ones I love. With this, I wish everyone a 'merry Christmas!'

I looked up again where the Christmas tokens are for. The GMs are currently keeping this a secret. I think it'll be like a previous event. In that event you had to collect also a kind of item to make chance on a real present. I can't really remember what present you could get, but it was rather cool. Collect them!


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This is a random screenshot of Ricky leveling with Jess.


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One day I ran around Madrigal together with Indiana Joey. We saw all cool buggs, and other cool places like on this screenshot. It was a fun thing to do on a boring day.

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Today I noticed event monsters on my way to Grasslands. I killed all the ones I found on my way to training. With one Gobbler I was really lucky! It dropped 3 Amplifications for me. Hooray!


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The Zombies were back too, creepy.



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And cute Mocomochi.


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Flyff's 5th anniversary

Yesterday was Flyff it's 5th birthday. Cause of that we got rewarded with a 5x exp event. Most of the people were happy about that. Almost everyone decided to level all day. Yes even me, who was totally against this event, trained the whole day. And I used for the first time in my Flyff-life amplifications.



NeocroHero. Level 125 to 129.

"As I already said. I was totally against this event. Even the biggest noobs could reach Hero or Master that day. While Master and Hero was only for the 'though' ones till this day. I still wish we can rewind that day. But I guess it happened and I made use of it, like everyone."


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Nabbie. Level 121 to 130.

"The 5x exp event was fucking kewl but many nabs got 130, like me."


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Sean44. Level 111 to 118.

"The 5x exp came at an odd time, but I made as much use as I could. I was promised Gpotatoes and I got them, except Gpotatoes didn't cash into my account yet. So I haven't gotten as many levels as I'd have hoped for the 5x."


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Lawl. Level 104 to 60-M.

"It was awesome?"



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AlexNL. Level 120, 65% to level 119-M

"Pathetic."

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DutchD. Level 61-M to 114-M.

"Aite, I was lv 61-M before the event, I'm almost level 115-M now. Aiming for Hero today. But I don't know. I have to work. Uhm... The 5x exp event was fun of course but... There are a lot masters and heroes now... And it made me lagg."


xWanted. Level 60-M to 72-M.

"I didn't have time. I think it's a nice event cause it's the first 5x exp event at Flyff, it's so cool."


Jess. Didn't level.

"It's ok. Not so bad?"


Shore. Level 101 to 112.

"I was 101 before event, and this event is awesome. The only thing is a lot of noobies get a high level now and I don't like that."


MisTy. Level 109 to 116.

"I think its good but I should've been AoE."

Friday, 17 December 2010

The story after: Chapter 1

On my old Twilight Dentifrice website, who's gone now, was a story written about my old guild, Twilight Dentifrice. The people in the story were members of TDF. It was a fiction story written by me. Jess asked me why I didn't write a new story, about now. I thought about it and started to write. Here's the story that follows on the TDF story. Heroes never die.


Chapter 1: Return.

Lisa sighted while she sat behind her computer. Cleaning out her computer wasn't one of the things she liked to do the most on her free day. But it just had to happen some day, her computer was filled with things she never used anymore. She never used the delete button more than she did today. Old works from school, delete. Old pictures, delete. Old games, delete. Neocro stared to here screen. "Flyff?" She couldn't remember ever playing a game called 'Flyff'. She looked to her clock and started the game. A bright blue scenery appeared with a login window. "Login ID and password..." Without thinking Lisa put in the user name and password she used on a lot websites. It worked. Three boxes appeared and one had a character named Neocropain. She clicked on the character and entered the game.

Neocro her lungs felt like bursting. She was surrounded by sand and water. Her whole body hurt and she barely could move. She tried really hard to move her arms around her, sand slid off her body. She managed to put her feet flat on the bottom of... of where ever she was. She kicked her legs. She really had to reach the surface. While it only took her a few seconds to reach the surface, it felt like hours to Neocro. She finally filled her lungs with air. Slowly she tried to open her eyes. It was really light around her. She tried to get used to it and looked around her. She was in a kind of lake. "Where am I..." murmured Neocro. Slowly she swam to she side of the lake where she was in. Her whole body was stiff. Every movement hurt. Lying on the brown sand at the side of the lake she gasped. "What is this..." Suddenly a weird creature came closer to Neocro. Neocro jumped up and stared to the walking time bomb. "What the..." A boy appeared followed by a girl. The boy held 2 swords. His swords flew to the creature while the girl behind him seemed to wave with a weird kind of stick. Neocro stared to the creature that fell on the ground and disappeared. The boy picked up some items that the creature left and ran away again. Neocro felt dizzy. Before she realized the boy and girl were gone again. "Hi... Hi wait!" screamed Neocro. She ran into the direction where the boy left. More creatures and people appeared. They were all fighting the walking time bombs. Neocro looked around and saw a bridge over the water she just came out of. It leaded away from the strange creatures and people so Neocro decided to cross the bridge. The creatures were gone but more and more people appeared. They were all dressed in strange clothes and most of them had weapons in their hands. They were all noisy and seemed busy. "Selling Traseia tickets, half price! Ship departs tonight so be fast!" Neocro looked confused around her. She started to walk faster through the crowd. "Buying Champion's jewelry set! Paying well!" Neocro ran away from the crowded square. Her body hurt so much. She closed her eyes and kept on running. Suddenly she bumped into a person. She fell down and opened her eyes. "I'm sorry!" said Neocro. Her shoulder hurt really bad, more than the rest of her body that was already hurting a lot. A boy dressed in a dark blue t-shirt with black pants looked angrily to her. Behind him were other boys dressed in the same clothes and a few girls dressed in short dresses. "I'm sorry..." said Neocro again. The boy got up and looked down on Neocro. "Do you know who you just bumped on?" The others behind him laughed. "N-no..." said Neocro. "You just bumped on a respectable member of Mafia!" said the boy. He walked to Neocro and made a fist of his hand. "And all you can say is sorry?" Neocro tried to fight against the pain that ran through her shoulder. "Can't you see she hurt herself more than she did you?" A boy was suddenly standing near Neocro. He was dressed in a light blue shirt and brown pants. He held a bow in his hands. "If you want I can pierce my arrow through your shoulder to show how much she hurt herself." The boy from the group stared to the bow the boy held. He stepped one step backwards and narrowed his eyes. "Take her out of her my sight." The boy with the light blue shirt grabbed Neocro and dragged her away.

"Are you okay?" asked the boy in the blue shirt. Neocro nodded. She sat down on one of the pipes that were spread through this city. "You shouldn't hang out in that part of Darken." said the boy. "Darken... I don't really know what I'm doing here." said Neocro. Rick stared to her clothes. A dark brown dress. Vagrant clothes. He smiled "You'll probably have to be in Flaris. I don't know how you got here but I'll help you out. I'm Rick!" said the boy cheerful. "I'm... Neocro... I guess..." murmured Neocro. "Take my hand." said Rick. He smiled to Neocro. Neocro stared to the hand and then looked around her. Anything seemed better than this place. She took Rick his hand and it got black in front of her eyes. A few seconds later she opened her eyes again. She was on a colorful square now. The sky looked bright blue. Her ears caught a sweet melody that flew through town. She knew this place, she knew this melody. "Follow me!" said Rick. He took Neocro's hand and ran across the square, over a bridge to a square that was rather crowded. Less crowded than the dark city that she just left though. They walked to a house where a few men were crafting weapons. "Hmm... Let's see..." said Rick, more to himself than to Neocro. He talked with one of the crafters and handed him over money. He received a package. "Here, try this!" said Rick. Neocro opened the package and stared to the new clothes and weapons she got. She put the clothes on and looked to herself. The brown dirty dress she was wearing changed into brown shorts with a small green and brown colored top. Then Neocro grabbed the small axe Rick gave her. She smiled. "Thanks, Rick... But what do I have to do with this?" Neocro swung around with the axe. Rick stared to her, stunned. "Do you even know what kind of game this is?" Neocro shook her head. Rick sighted. "Let's go for a walk."

They walked together through Flaris. Rick showed the different monsters in Flaris and told Neocro about Flyff. He told her about the different classes and weapons. Some things seemed Neocro familiar, most things. At the end of the day she believed that she really used to play this game. But when? She didn't know. She couldn't remember anything. "Thanks for your help and the things you gave me, Rick. I wish I had money to pay you back." Rick laughed. Don't worry about that, really." He gave her another small bag. "And this is for if you need something more." Neocro opened curiously the small bag. There was money in it. "Well it's time that I go to my guild house and join my guild members for the night." said Rick when they sat on a hill watching the orange sun. "Guild house?" asked Neocro. "Yes." said Rick. "It's a house for all members of my guild. We spend the night there and discuss things there." "Sounds nice." said Neocro. Ricky looked hesitating to Neocro. "I thought... Maybe... Maybe you would want to come to the guild house too? I don't think our leader would mind... I don't think you have any other place to spend the night..." Neocro stared to the sky. The moon appeared. "I don't think I do. I'd like to go with you." Rick smiled. "Let's go then before it gets too dark." They climbed off the hill and walked slowly back to town.

The little lanterns in Flarine lighted the 3 squares. Rick guided Neocro to the middle square and entered a small street. He entered one of the little houses. Neocro hesitated when she heard people laughing and talking inside, but followed Rick. She was standing in the entrance and looked surprised around her. There was a big fire place where people sat in sofas around it. They talked, laughed and drank. There were a few tables with chairs. At one a few boys were playing with cards. Around another girls were talking. One boy said quiet in a corner of the room drinking on his own. At a fourth table in the corner there were a boy and girl sitting. They were both wearing bright white clothes. Rick stepped to them and Neocro followed slowly. "Neocro, this are Nico and Nathalie. My guild leaders." Neocro greeted them. "Can she please stay over tonight? She has no where to go." Nathalie smiled. "Of course she can Rick." Rick smiled and started to tell about what he did that day and about other things. Neocro looked around her. The sound of their happy voices made Neocro smile. They seemed to get along pretty well. The weapons of the people here lied everywhere across the room. Her eyes caught a round looking weapons. They looked like 2 golden flowers. Neocro slowly walked to them. She didn't know why. She felt like taking them in her hands, before she realized she had one in her right hand and one in her left hand. Neocro touched softly the sharp golden sides. Her finger started to bleed. A smile appeared on her face. They were in a perfect state. She closed her eyes and made a movement with the yoyos. The room lighted up green. "Hi..." said someone. "Sarah, someone is using your yoyos." Neocro opened her eyes and looked around her. Everyone was staring to her. Neocro panicked, threw the yoyos on the ground and ran to the door "Neocro!" shouted a voice. Neocro didn't look behind her to see Rick who was shouting her name. She opened the door and ran outside, through the street, across the square, into the hills of Flaris. She ran till she felt a sharp pain in her chest. Neocro fell on the ground and started to cry.

Tower Siege TenaciouS, victory! (7)

Few days passed since last tower siege with TenaciouS. I guess all of you know what happened in this few days. I was just too busy to work on this post and by now I kinda forgot most things that happened at that siege. Hehe. Anyway. Thanks to the screenshot I'm able to put a kind of story down. The story of my last tower siege with TenaciouS, which I didn't know yet when we started it.

We weren't with that many this tower siege cause 3 of our dammage dealers were not there when it started. Nothing much to worry about though since we had no one to race against and we still had a few dammage dealers.

We joined Darken Tower siege.


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The timer ran to zero and we hurried forward, killing the 100 monsters.

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Alex, who was with us again, AoEd the monsters. Rick appeared too.


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Then we got to Asmodan. Alex asked if he should attack Asmodan again, like he did last time. I cheered him on and our brave not-hero ran to Asmodan.


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A nice act, but he died. Then we started killing Asmodan.

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Everything went smooth, no one died.

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And we won tower siege siege. Congratulations!

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I think I have to put a few words here now for what happened last days.

I left TenaciouS cause I wasn't agreed anymore. That's what I kinda tell everyone. I think everyone also wonders what I mean with that. Let's say that you can't change a guild based on siege, tower siege in this case, in a guild based on having fun. I never felt like it was my task to change this guild either. I left cause I didn't want to be in this kind of guild anymore. I wanted back to a guild where everyone has the feeling to feel welcome, where everyone an have a fun time. So, not cause what Nico said during tower siege. What he said back then was just the trigger, it made me start thinking about this siege and their leaders.

Nath and Nico keep saying they're not angry, so let's just believe that altough there's a lot commotion about me leaving. I think it's time to move on and leave all troubles behind. I never meant to cause so much troubles and I just want to move on, working on our new guild 'Accident'. I had a great time in TenaciouS and I always felt ok there. I'm happy that I got the chance to be co-lead there and that so many people tell me now how much I did in TenaciouS. I'm also very happy that I met so many people by beeing in TenaciouS. I really want to thank everyone for that. Thanks for letting me be in such a great guild.

Tuesday, 14 December 2010

Screenshots of past weeks.

More than a week ago there was an invasion. It was announced but I didn't expect I would be there then so it was a surprise to me. Still I decided to not go, till Sean told me there was a huge spawn of 126 monsters. He begged for plv and I rushed over to Saint Morning. I couldn't say no to free Traseia.

On my way there I was impressed by the huge spawns the GM left behind.


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Later I found the big new monster from V16 that the GM spawned. It looked rather cool, and huge.

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I trained for the rest of the day on the level 126 monsters. There was a huge spawn and I never thought I could kill them all. When I finaly thought they were all gone I found more a bit further.

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When I wanted to go, Sean was AFK and I promised him to leave him at a safe place somewhere. I found the perfect place!

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The entrance of that place was protected by a CW! End of invasion. Sorry for not having more screenshots!

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Today I went training with Sean. I had fun talking with Sean and Wania in guildchat. We made weird typos too.

Snaking snowmen means sneaking snowmen for if they'd run away. Smart, smart.

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Here I am using an upcut stone cause I thought Sean had to go soon, and I really wanted to level before that he had to go.


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Hooray!

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Oh and Wania got frunk when she was 15!

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This screenshot is specialy for Indiana Joey who is trying to sell his items for days now, but sold nothing yet.

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